‘It’s Not a Dying Art Form, Only a Changing One’: Marina Abramović on the Transformative Power of Opera

Opera is a very old form of art. It has been developed throughout the centuries. It has its own language and rules and a very particular and enthusiastic public. But now we are in the 21st century, and it’s time to change the rules and dismantle the structure and blow some fresh air into opera. In this way, we can succeed in creating a complete work of art.

In 2018 in Antwerp, I developed the concept and stage design for Claude Debussy’s Pelléas et Mélisande. It was the first time I had worked in opera and was a very inspiring moment for me. I worked on a ballet based on Ravel’s 15-minute suite Boléro together with the choreographers Sidi Larbi Cherkaoui and Damien Jalet. Compared to Debussy’s opera, the work has a rigid form and is consequently much
more difficult to penetrate. Debussy left a lot of space open for interpretation in his opera, which is essential for visual artists because this space leaves them room and freedom of imagination.

For Pelléas, my décor involved the use of large crystals; these, together with the video by Marco Brambilla, brought out the metaphysical aspect of the drama and made the invisible power of music more visible. We don’t know from where Mélisande comes; Golaud discovers her in the forest. Could she be an alien from another planet? The crystals could also be interpreted as the spaceships that brought her to us. Is she human? Is her love true? Does she die for love? All these questions are directed toward
the public, and they need to find their own answers.

Marina Abramović, Pelléas et Mélisande | Dir. / Chor. S. L. Cherkaoui & D. Jalet | Photo © Rahi Rezvani.

I’ve been thinking about this romantic idea of dying for love for a long time, and I’m a very romantic person. I almost died for love years ago. The experience was so painful and so totally absorbed my soul that I don’t think I could do it again. I’m happy that I survived because now I can make this work The Seven Deaths of Maria Callas, which has been my secret dream for more than thirty years.

Maria Callas has been my lifelong hero, and there is a real physical resemblance between us. For The Seven Deaths of Maria Callas, I needed to find singers for seven signature roles of the great Greek soprano: Tosca, Violetta, Cio-Cio San, Carmen, Lucia, Desdemona, and Norma. Of course, I had help from the Bayerische Staatsoper in choosing them. I wasn’t looking just for the voice but also for the energy and the type of women I needed for each role. In one case, I needed a strong and Viking-like woman, another needed to be passionate and Spanish, another delicate and Japanese. In each of these characters, the one common feature is that they are all dying for love. The singer has to believe and understand what she is doing in each of her roles—totally and absolutely.

Carson McCullers said: “I am so immersed in my characters that their motives are my own. When I write about a thief, I become one; when I write about Captain Penderton, I become a homosexual man. I become the characters I write about, and I bless the Latin poet Terence who said: ‘Nothing human is alien to me.’”
This is a very similar approach to the one I take. You have to be in character; otherwise, the public will feel it and lose interest.

Marina Abramović, Pelléas et Mélisande | Dir. / Chor. S. L. Cherkaoui & D. Jalet | Photo © Rahi Rezvani.

Once, I received an excellent lesson from Bob Wilson: he said that when you stand on stage, you have to be there in the present; if you are already thinking about your next move, you will lose concentration. The next move always has to come with the body and the mind simultaneously—effortlessly.

At the beginning of my performance career, I didn’t think that a transformative experience was possible through theater or opera, but only through the type of long-durational performance art I was exploring. With the performance of Rhythm 10 at the Museo d’Arte Contemporanea in Rome in 1973 and listening afterward to the wild applause from the audience, I knew I had succeeded in creating an unprecedented unity of time—present and past through random errors. I experienced absolute freedom. I felt that my body was without boundaries, limitless, that pain didn’t matter, that nothing mattered at all. I would never have thought that this could be possible in theater or opera, but after working with Bob Wilson and Willem Dafoe, and with choreographers Damien Jalet and Sidi Larbi Cherkaoui, and now on my opera project with Willem again, I’ve changed my mind. You can go so deep into a performance that you become one with the character and create a charismatic state of unity with the public.

Now that I’m in my seventies, the idea that this is the last part of my life is very present. The question of how much time do you really have and how you translate what you have done in your life for future generations becomes more and more urgent. Regarding the future of opera and what it can offer to the younger generation, if you’d asked me this question twenty years ago, I would have answered that opera is a dying form of art. But if you ask me now, I would say that opera has a lot of potential and that a future generation of artists will undoubtedly offer new solutions. I don’t know if it will be called opera in the future or have a new name. Only time will tell. But it’s not a dying art form, only a changing art form.


Excerpted with permission from The Last Days of the Opera, edited by Denise Wendel-Poray, Gert Korentschnig and Christian Kircher, published by SKIRA Editore (released in the US Feb 28).

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Marina Abramović’s Latest Immersive Installation Will Take You on a Journey Through Her Life Story

Rose of Jericho, Starry Night, essays by Susan Sontag. If Marina Abramović were to bury a time capsule today, those are some of the items she’d put in. 

That’s the conceit of the performance art star’s upcoming show, “Traces,” a three-day experience in London that will take visitors on a journey through her life in five rooms.

Conceived as an immersive installation, each room will be inspired by an object or idea that, like the aforementioned herb and Van Gogh painting, has proven to be a particular influence on her work. 

The pop-up exhibition, set to go on view September 10 through 12 at Old Truman Brewery in London, will also showcase two of Abramović’s earlier works—Crystal Cinema (1991) and 10,000 stars (2015)—before concluding with a new interview she recently recorded herself.

A still from WeTransfer's presentation of Marina Abramović's <i>The Abramović Method</i>. Courtesy of WeTransfer.

A still from WeTransfer’s presentation of Marina Abramović’s The Abramović Method. Courtesy of WeTransfer.

“Traces” marks the culmination of Abramović’s year-long partnership with WePresent, the editorial arm of the file-sharing platform WeTransfer. Earlier this year, she inaugurated WePresent’s guest curator series, showcasing a handful of up-and-coming performing artists around the world on the site, and sharing a “digital manifestation” of her own participatory form of meditation, the Abramović Method.

“Using WeTransfer’s knowledge of design and media, we have brought her practice to millions of people around the world in a variety of ways, adding something new to the cultural landscape,” the platform’s editor in chief, Holly Fraser, added. “We hope to inspire the general public and artists of tomorrow with the work and life of one of our most important living artists.”

In a statement, Abramović said WePresent “have always been willing to look at new interpretations of my work and passions.”

The show will be free, but advanced tickets are required for entry. They will be available from August 18 here.

For the Abramović heads that can’t make it to London, Traces will also exist as a digital experience on the WePresent website.

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